There's no two ways about it. I don't know how they can go on time and time again winning playoff games without deserving them. It's disgusting.
Football's full of mistakes. They're a part of the game. But certain mistakes are so fundamental that professionals avoid them--in general. It's these mistakes that teams facing the Patriots in the playoffs regularly make. Today's loss by the Chargers was a perfect example. The mistakes include dropping wide open passes, inexplicable play calling, boneheaded penalties, ridiculous challenges, and, of course, intercepting a fourth-down pass instead of knocking it down. Don't get me wrong: the Chargers did not deserve to win this game either. But the thing is, in a fair world, the Patriots would lose just as many games that neither team deserves to win as they win. But that's not the case; rather, the Patriots win almost every single game when both teams play like crap, and that disgusts me. (Ok, well, that combined with Patriots fans interpreting their victories as being due to the supreme excellence of their football team, rather than the other teams' gift-wrapping the games for them.)
The Chargers should have won this game by 20 points. Instead, they handed the game to the Patriots on a silver platter, and the Patriots, who had looked inept and overmatched for much of the game, performed admirably in the clutch and accepted the victory. Belichik didn't win this game; Brady didn't win this game; Gostkowski didn't win this game. The Chargers lost this game, as so many Patriots opponents have done in the playoffs over the past six years. Some day the karma must run out, and I hope I'm around to enjoy it.
Fuck the Patriots.
Go Colts.
Hear hear!
I feel the same way. As a resident of St. Louis, I know all about how teams just give the patriots victories in the post season. Dont get me wrong Tom Brady is a bad ass dude, but a LOT of the Patriots success is just dumb luck!!
You suck!!! F**k u
I can't stand how people act like the cheating by the patriots isn't a big deal and how the league just swept this thing under the rug. The next time my team plays the patriots, im wearing this shirt.
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Just a quick question. Whats does a team do with illegal video and audio tapes? I mean where does it go? What benefit did the Patriots get from recording this stuff for 9 years?
Answer these questions and I think a lot of Patriots fans will start to see the light.
you all are a bunch of idiots. You do realize that defensive coordinators change their signals? Any tapes the Pats may have had are useless anyway. What about this year? No tapes this year, they are having the best year in history. I am a huge RedSox fan and we hated the Yankees because they WON. That is all that is happening here. Get over it. Talented players want to play for New England. It start with the front office and the head coach. When your teams get this is when you will start to win.
See, calling anybody who doesn't like the Patriots "a bunch of idiots" is what I have to live with day in and day out here in New England. While I love New England for the seasons and the history, the sports fans are "a bunch of idiots". They give no one else any credit. It's funny, 74% of New England viewers thought Barry Bonds should be stripped of his record because he cheated, but 100% don't think that the Patriots cheating scandal had anything to do with their Super Bowl wins. These are the most hypocritcal fans ever!
Does anyone even know the rule the Patriots broke by using the camera to video play calls? IT IS LEGAL TO VIDEO ANYTHING ON THE SIDELINES. You just have to do it from the stands, not the sideline. So they broke the camera location rule. ALL TEAMS VIDEO THE OTHER TEAMS ON THE SIDELINES DURING EVERY GAME! And they do everything else possible that they can to get an edge on the other team. Why do you think almost no other coach commented on this media spectacle about so called "cheating"?
Get over it, that was game #1 losers. Plus, they DID pay a penalty, Bill Belichick had to pay a half million dollars from his pocket and lost his first round draft pick. That was the fine - period - over.
The Patriots are the best team in the NFL and are undefeated because THEY ARE THE BEST TEAM EVER!
Face it, the 2007 Patriots are the greatest NFL team ever and will go 19-0 to win their 4th Super Bowl in 6 years. The fact that the rest of the country hates their guts makes every Patriots fan like myself smile with glee. And, it only gives the team more motivation to play even harder the next game. They're absolutely determined to win and unstoppable at this point.
So go ahead — hate away, call them cheats, etc. You're only giving them more bulletin board material, which they thrive on.
I find it interesting that everyone has the Patriots in the Super Bowl already. They may be rolling over all of their opponents now, but who knows what can happen in the playoffs? Isn't that how the Patriots won their first Super Bowl, by coming out of nowhere? The arrogance on the part of the Boston sports media and the fan base just assuming themselves into the Super Bowl is the most aggravating thing. I sure hope they lose long before the playoffs, but if they don't and they win a super bowl, oh well. They are a powerhouse team, that is not in question. The fact remains that the season is not over, so stop saying it is.
It's not over, but referencing the Patriots' first Super Bowl victory is silly. The 2001 Rams aren't anywhere near as good as the 2007 Patriots. And the 2001 Patriots can't hold a candle to them, either. The current team is playing at a whole different level.
[homophobic slur removed --Lee] Tom brady is a fucking pussy with a good O line and the best reciever in football to throw it to. I can go back to the year when they played the raiders in the playoffs tom [Brady] clearly fumbles and they call it an incomplete pass? That was the start of it all. The patriots are unbeaten right now but they only beat the colts by 4 they in no way dominated that game and the colts were hurt and undermanned as well. The other teams the beat with the exception of dallas were all pushovers, wow they belw out the bills, the jets, and the dolphins oh yeah they beat the bengals too! Give me a break they are beatable and when it does happen I am going to love it. Do not think I hate the [Patriots] because they are good I had no problem with the cowboys of the 90's or the niners in the 80's. New england is just an overhyped, over rated team and what the fuck new england they represent an entire section of america? The pats blow!!
Thank you "the truth". I couldn't agree with you more!
For anyone who thinks "Spygate" has tarnished the Patriots' three previous Super Bowl victories:
You do realize that what the team did against the Jets was perfectly legal until 2006, when the NFL changed the rules? The Patriots won all their Super Bowls before then. So how are their championships tarnished?
Who is still undefeated? Pats are you whiners. 11 - 0
GO PATS - we rule from the land of champions!!
Who cares if the Pats are undefeated? Once the playoffs are here, the slate is wiped clean. You never know what could happen. I know the idiotic Boston media has them in the Super Bowl already, and there's a good chance they will be there, but there's always a chance that they lose in the playoffs. Maybe if the fan-base was not so arrogant (just like the team is) then the rest of the country wouldn't hate them so much!
The Patriots won three Superbowls...all three by a field goal. The first was won because of a lousy play-off call against Oakland. I agree that it seems they get lucky too often. Richard Nixon burned eight minutes of audio tape and Goodell burns the Patriot's video tapes. Why isn't someone investigating that? It will be truly sad if a team caught cheating winds up winning it all, and we will be forced to listen to endless crap about Brady being Montana, Santa Claus, and Jesus all wrapped up in one!
LOL Ken, that's a good one... about Brady. I couldn't agree with you more. If they play in the Super Bowl, it isn't worth watching. ESPECIALLY the 9 hours of coverage before, so we can see what WONDERFUL people that team is comprised of. Yeah, they're a bunch of jewels. When they beat the Panthers (which absolutely broke my heart) at their parade, Vrabel was bad-mouthing the Panthers. I mean, cmon, you just beat them, why bad-mouth them now? This entire team has taken on the personality of their coach, and he has the personality of an ashtray.
First of all, "the truth" has said what I have been raving about for years. The infamous "tuck rule" is one of the worst rules in the NFL, and Oakland absolutely should have been in the Superbowl in 2001. If that play was correctly left as a fumble, this whole string of luck would never have happened, and we wouldn't have to hear about the so-called New England dynasty. The Rams laid down, assuming overtime was guaranteed, in '02--even the worst QB in the league could have beaten that prevent defense. And somehow Brady wins the MVP with 145 yards?! Then John Kasay inexplicably lets the final kickoff go out of bounds in '04, allowing the Pats to start at the 40, easily getting a shot at the final field goal. Hell, they didn't even make the playoffs in '03! This is a false dynasty that has been riding a trend of good luck unlike anything ever seen in the NFL. They should be 9-2 this year anyway; the Colts would have easily won at full strength, and A.J. Feeley gave them a gift-wrapped interception this past Sunday night. And they play in the second worst division in the NFL next to the NFC West. But nobody wants to talk about that. They couldn't handle the NFC East or North, nor could they handle the AFC North or South. Oh, and Bill Belichick is a total asshole, as seen with his brush-off of Peyton Manning's handshake after the AFC Championship last year. And how hypocritical is it for the most arrogant team in pro sports to talk about eating "humble pie"? There are a million plus reasons to hate this team, and a million plus reasons why they are just plain lucky.
Cmeyer, AMEN to all that! I love when they play a night game, that way I can watch football all day Sunday with my NFL Ticket, and make believe they don't exist! As long as I avoid the Monday morning Boston news, I'm all set. Living in New England is holy hell with the hypocrits and the bandwagoners. These Puritans that live here have such a double-standard. They can't accept any bad beahavior, yet their beloved Patriots are filled with liars and cheaters. Somehow all the fan base seems to look the other way. Amazing how that is!
Oh my God, people are still talking about the tuck rule? Get a freakin' life — it's over. Even if it was a bad call — the refs got it right, however — every team has calls go against them once in a while. The Patriots have experienced plenty of horrible officiating this year, but they've always managed to overcome it. That's what great teams do. Why don't you talk about how the Raiders simply weren't good enough in 2001? If they were, one "bad call" wouldn't have made a difference.
And as for Mike Vrabel badmouthing the Panthers, maybe he knew what we all found out later on: That several members of the Carolina team were on steroids during the Superbowl against the Pats? (I guess GiantsfaninNE is "looking the other way" on that one.) How come everyone talks about Rodney Harrison and Spygate but says nothing about the cheaters on other teams throughout the league?
Oh, and "luck?" You don't win three Superbowls in four years and go 11-0 so far this season with luck.
Ha ha, hate away. The Patriots and their fans love it that everyone else is so jealous.
Every Pats fan uses "jealousy" as a reason to dislike their team. Say what you like. I've been a Giants fan all my life, and it isn't easy with Eli and all, but I don't diss people for not backing the same team as I do. Everyone has the right to their own opinion about how the Pats won their super bowls, and whether Tom Brady is gay, and if Bill Belichick is a lousy human being or not. The most we can do is agree to disagree. I live amongst all the hype about this team and it makes me sick, but that's my opinion. By the way, Mike Vrabel could not have had any information regarding the Panthers two days after the super bowl, since that wasn't leaked for a long time later.
Another thing, all Pats fans defend their cheating team by saying "other teams cheat". Does this make it right? Is it OK to cheat in any respect?
No, it isn't, but singling out the Patriots doesn't make sense. Every team cheats, one way or another. The Pats pulled a bonehead move, especially since they're the last team in the league that needs to cheat. But they're already been punished, so the issue is dead. Live with it.
What hype are you talking about? The Pats get a lot of press because, you know, they won three rings in four years in the age of free agency, and are currently 11-0. They're a good team, so naturally they're going to get more headlines. Who are we supposed to be reading about, the Giants? Please.
And explain to me why so many of you guys are so obsessed with Brady's sexuality? Is it because you secretly have the hots for him? And where's the evidence that he's gay? Is the accusation based on the fact that he dates a lot of supermodels?
More importantly, what's that got to do with anything anyway? So what if he were gay, he's still kicking your asses. Homophobes.
The Patriots didn't cheat. They broke a rule. The rule states that it is LEGAL for any team to film the other team, (which they all do) the game or anything they want, but not from the sidelines only from the stands. So they broke the rule by filming from the sideline instead of the stands. They paid the price and have gone on to BEAT UP on every other team since. The NFL DID investigate and was satisfied with the outcome and served Belichick his fine. GET OVER IT!
And how do you figure they are arrogant? The Pats players are the most reserved, well-behaved team in the NFL. They don't brag, flaunt their talent or dis other teams, they just work and do their job WELL!
It is just total JEALOUSY - you just can't stand how good the Patriots and Brady are!!! Hail from the Land of Champions!
Land of Champions, my ass! They are extremely arrogant. Don't you live in New England? Oh yeah, you are one of those biased, idiotic Patriots' fans.... I forgot!
How can a man labeled a "coaching genius" misinterpret a league rule? But the die-hard Pat-fans say that's not cheating? Which is it? Is he a genius-cheater, or an honest idiot?
How are the Patriots arrogant? They don't trash talk and they always say the right things about their competition. They're better prepared than any team when they take the field, which just shows you how much respect they have for their opponents.
But keep going, we love hearing how miserable and jealous you all are, especially the New York fans.
I AM an arrogant fan - that's allowed. But, I don't believe the team is arrogant for reasons described above. They are decent guys - and great players. Your ass too bad. Patriots still hail from my land of champions!!! 3x Superbowl Champs (not to mention the Sox!)
You guys are all just jealous. Yes let me say it again, JEALOUS. Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all time. He won 3 Super Bowls and won 2 Super Bowl MVP awards with average receivers. Look at Peyton Manning, the few games he didn't have Marvin Harrison healthy, he struggled...Tom Brady never had a player of Harrison's quality, yet he won 3 Super Bowls. Now he has Moss, Stallworth, and Welker, and look what he is doing now...Now is that luck? No. The Patriots aren't luck. They go out and win every game because of the way they prepare themselves. So what if they video taped another team's signals...EVERY TEAM HAS DONE THAT!!! But how is that going to give you an advantage of knowing the opponent's signals? You will get the film at halftime, you will go into the locker room, and there is no way in hell you can adjust in that time period. And if you're going to tell me that they can use the film for the next time they play that team, well it's that team's fault they don't change their signs. If you don't change your signs, you're an idiot and should be out of a coaching job in the National Football League. The Patriots are a dynasty, and no one can change that. Not LT, not McNabb, not even the Oakland Raider's faithful. Get over it, the Patriots are here to stay, and they will make sure that you feel their presence.
The Patriots are going to go down. They have squeeked by for the last two weeks. They will get their due. If they get to the SB, Green Bay or Dallas will take them.
I will give NE all the credit for an amzing season. HOWEVER, they did not deserve to win tonight vs Baltimore. Horrible referring and NE famous Last Second Time out saved them again. I just hope they change that rule. I like brady, but bill is an ignorant coach in many people's eyes.
Of course they deserved to win because they did well, win! Only the team that wins actually deserves the win. NE didn't call the "last second time out" as you put it, the Ravens did. Did you not see the assistant on the side lines waiving his hands and Ravens Coach Billick saying WE called the timeout, post game? I will say that it gave the Pats the extra time they needed to make a play. I don't agree about the penalty calling - they were legit calls. And to call Belichick ignorant is to not know the game of football. He's one of the greatest coaches ever - it doesn't matter if you like him or not, just look at his record.
GO PATS!!!!!
funny how people keep claiming that tom Brady some qb god. When we all know the pats D from those past super bowls always set them up to win. I live in Boston and i hate the pats i hated them ever since bledsoe was the qb. We already know they had a pancake schedule colts out played them NE just got lucky, eagles outplayed them yet again feely gave them the game and the ravens definitely gave them the game. NE just gets lucky specially with the players they picked up this off season Oak just wanted randy to go because Randy one of those baby players if i don't win I'm going to bitch and walk out on you cough 2004/5 vikings. NE not that great and they better take a lost now because if colts meets them in the playoffs specially if there 16-0 there going to beat them. We know they cant really run with out spreading the field. They really cant stop the run proved from this ravens game. there D is mostly old linebackers and few fat lineman if you play them with out fear you can beat them there human just like us bill no football genius he just has a right players for his scheme that's why randy moss is helping tom Brady have those type of numbers because there just doing what the 99 vikings did i think they went 15-1 that season as well. yeah its rare a Boston guy hating NEW England i do but i always did. Also if any one gets the MVP it should be moss because tom Brady never had those type of numbers with any WR in the past. But the pats are good but really how good i just think the rest of the NFL just stinks except for a few teams
16-0 nah not going to happen i think settlers beat them 28-24.
And some one please knock Rodney Harrison out man that hgh really got this guy on the edge specially how ruff he is on players that already down. actually if you think back to the colts game he knocked his own player down to get to Joseph Addai.
They didn't cheat, they just broke a rule, please give me a break! Let’s look at the long history of the Patriots. First of all the tuck rule game, yes where still talking about that, because if that didn't happen there would be no dynasty. The referrers didn't even explain the call they made on the field, its obvious they covered up the mistake by implying the tuck rule after the game. This isn't the only example of Pats getting lucky or cheating. Has everybody forgotten about all the illegal holding and contact tactics they have been using over the years? The Rams after the super bowl complained about illegal contact as did the Colts after AFC Championship in '03 season, after which the NFL told officials to enforce all the rules properly. Then less not forget about spygate, all you pat fans go on about how it doesn’t matter, and look were winning without the video tapes, but the spygate answers a lot of questions specially how did a rubbish coach such as Bili-cheat, who was completely useless at Cleveland, some how become a great strategist over night at New England, and the answer is in the video tapes. It obvious that they have been cheating since the '01 season but the NFL just doesn't care because they need these franchises like the New England, Dallas and SF to sell football and Tom Brady is the All American poster boy QB, they don't want people talking about Cincinnati’s troublemakers, they want people talking about handsome Tom and his clean cut ways. Kurt Warner throw nearly twice as many yards than Brady at the super bowl then but they gave MVP to him, Jake Delhomme made some amazing plays and made that super bowl but they gave the MVP to Brady. It's nothing but favoritism and what happened against the Ravens just proves that. The NFL needs the Pats and that’s way they'll keep winning.
And before all you Pats fans come saying Brady's the greatest QB of all time just because his thrown a few bombs this year, we all know Randy Moss is making him look good, Brady airs the ball out, throwing it high above Moss knowing that only Moss can catch is at that height and there is no chance of an interception, he doesn't make difficult passes like Bret Farve does getting the ball over the backs head and into the receivers hands. And finally all you Pat fans are glory supporters, where were you at the start of the 90's, from what I've heard nobody cared that the team might move to St. Louis, you're all glory supporters and when you win this super bowl (which I’m sure you will), Bili-cheat will retire, all your golden oldies in defense will be gone, Moss will look towards warmer climates and more money since his got his ring and all you Pats fans will be nowhere to be seen.
They didn't deserve to win? Why not, because their players and coaches didn't make bonehead moves? The Ravens blew it, and the Patriots took advantage.
The great teams find ways to win the close ones, as the Patriots do time and time again.
Ha, 12-0 baby.
Rob, what a long-winded ramble to say nothing new. ALL teams complain about bad officiating after EVERY game. Give me a break with all of your whining. I stand by my assessment that the Pats broke a rule - look it up in the book. You CAN and EVERY team DOES film the other teams' signals on the sideline. You have to do it from the stands though and that's where the Pats went wrong. The NFL has looked at all of the Pats tapes and found nothing on them that would indicate they had "cheated" further.
From what you heard - you are wrong. We never wanted the Pats to move from Foxboro. We were very worried about that proposition. Why even open your mouth about something you know nothing about!??
Finally, Good luck with that notion of Belichick retiring soon, we're going to be on top for years dude!! Get used to it.
GO PATS!!
I hate to say it, but Baltimore lost that game. They had so many opportunities and too many penalties! Yeah, the refs are in the favor of the Patriots and they always have been (except for the Indy game this year). The point is, no matter how much the fans think Brady is a god and Belichick is unbeatable, outside of the six New England states, nobody really cares. I live in Massachusetts and absolutely hate listening to how wonderful this team is. The radio talk shows condemn anybody who calls in with a different view from the path that Kraft has carved. It's insane! It might not have been fair, but they won that game last night and last week against the Eagles because Philly and Baltimore couldn't close out the game. If you don't keep your head about you and close the game out, the Patriots will sneak in with a win. It's a shame and it's discouraging, but I think the Patriots are losing ground just at the right time. Their old and wrinkly defense is starting to get tired, and it couldn't happen at a better time. I just hope they go one and out in the playoffs. I know it isn't likely, but I can hope!
Nothing makes the victory sweeter than to hear all the whining afterwards. I'd *much* rather win a game like that and hear all the cry babies than blow out a team.
I think it must be part of Belichick's plan: don't just beat them; don't just humiliate them; completely break their will.
The Ravens will never recover from this.
" the refs are in the favor of the Patriots and they always have been (except for the Indy game this year)"
Wow, talk about cherry picking. And again, why would the refs be in favor of the Pats?
"no matter how much the fans think Brady is a god and Belichick is unbeatable, outside of the six New England states, nobody really cares. "
If nobody cares, then why is everyone in the country obsessed with the Patriots, for better or worse? Everyone has something to say about them all the time, so obviously they care.
If you don't like listening to the radio talk shows, then turn the dial. It's that simple.
Also, I don't see why you think my previous post is whining. I didn't think it was whining or jealousy at all. You Patriots' fans are all alike. If I don't agree with YOU, then something is wrong with ME!
"You Patriots' fans are all alike."
Yup - we're all happy with our team.
you are all douche bags... first of all you let a football game effect your daily self.... but anyway... the patriots don't win games that should be close because they are average... the patriots are THE BEST TEAM IN THE NFL BY FAR... i dont know if they are the best team ever as they are said to be.... but they can play awful and still win... all the other nfl teams don't compare.... and you talk about questionable calls.... look at the colts game... holy shit are you blind... look at the calls... nobody wants new england to win.. including the refs.... so all you haters fuck off.... give respect.... they are the best team of our time... even if they don't win... and brady is amazing... look at his demeanor.... he donesn't panic even loosing at the end of the game... how many quarterbacks follow that suit....... answer is NONE.... you people are idiots to not think you are watching history of the nfl in the making.... even if its not with the patriots.... its with brady.... feel free to email me with your responses... ch12139038@aol.com
13-0. I thought the Steelers had the best defense in the NFL?
The Ravens game sent an alarm off in the Patriots' locker room, and whatever window of opportunity there was to beat The Patriots is now gone.
they are still undefeated. 13-0. they just (easily) beat the best defense in the league. they voided the "guaranteed" win. Beady - Moss - Welker - Gaffney - must I go on? the PATRIOTS are the best team in the NFL. PERIOD. Hail from the Land of Champions!
It's damn depressing to see them win week after week and live in New England and have to listen to all the cocky reporters and media. I don't care if they go 16-0 (or 15-1 and lose to my Giants), as long as they lose in the playoffs so I can see the long faces on the local media (Bob Lobell, Mike Lynch, etc) They are all assholes!
Dear GiantsfaninNE, you should just join the party - it's a cure for depression!
I'd rather watch basketball!
GiantsfaninNE, why don't you root for your home team? Do you root for an opposing high school team, too?
Tom,
Prior to the Patriots existence, the NY Giants were the team that was televised up in New England. My father decided to remain a NY Giants fan, as did I, as is my 20 yr old son. I never cared about Steve Grogan and, especially now, the team that is in my backyard. However, I don't think it makes me an idiot, just because I don't follow the home team. In this day and age of the internet and NFL Sunday Ticket, anybody can be a fan of any team in the country. My entire household are fans of different teams....except my husband who sticks by the Patriots. However, he can't stay home and watch us root against them each week!
14-0
Who really cares if the Pats are 14-0? This story is getting older each week.
Wow , the Giants looked good last night. As a Pats fan, I'm real worried about that last regular season game LOL!
[homophobic slur for Eli Manning] couldn't hit water if he fell out of a friggin' boat.
[ I do not permit homophobic slurs in comments on my blog. It's amazing how many Pats fans and non-Pats fans alike feel the need to express themselves in a derogatory style. --Lee]
"I do not permit homophobic slurs in comments on my blog."
Really? What about these:
[Examples snipped. Thanks for pointing that out, there was one comment that had slipped through that I've now scrubbed. --Lee]
I guess being a homophobe is OK only if you're a Patriot hater.
[No. It's never OK. --Lee]
One comment? It was more like four.
[Your examples listed three examples from one comment and one example which I do not consider a slur and have not removed. If there are other examples that I have still missed, please email me at lee-blog AT thefigtrees DOT net. It's no surprise to me that a Pats fan feels the need to be overwhelmingly arrogant in his correction of me, though. --Lee]
I don't see how pointing out an inconsistency or an error is being arrogant. Just asking for some fairness. I'm reading a lot of anti-Patriot vitriol — much of it homophobic and even violent — and yet that's OK.
If being a Patriots fans means you're arrogant, than I guess being a non-Patriot fan means you're childish and/or illiterate (have you read some of these posts?), homophobic and have problems with anger management.
Patriots are only undefeated so far because they cheated. Kraft has the NFL in his back pocket and obviously pays his way to wins. Whatever they do is all bullshit to me. I hope their fucking plane goes down and they have to eat each other, only one person survives and
[more homophobic drivel snipped, the gist of which I'm sure you can imagine --Lee]
I agree about Kraft having the NFL in his pocket. They think the world of that drunk... I don't get it. I hope the Pats go one and out in the playoffs. Even an unbeaten record doesn't matter come playoff time.
"I hope their fucking plane goes down and they have to eat each other, only one person survives and"
...and what? Aww, I wanted to hear the rest!
LOL now the Haters think the Patriots are buying their wins — this stuff gets better every week.
I'm curious as to how you do that. Do
you pay off the defenders on Moss or Maroney? Do you pay off the referees?
I guess the Pats will have to pay off Eli Manning next week, too. Hey, his brother took a dive against New England!
Leave Eli out of this!
Hey, he got himself involved in this mess.
If the Patriots beat the Giants next week, you'll know that it was because Eli was paid off. Some classy team you're rooting for!
Oh Please, don't talk class when you are a Patriots fan. The only less classy fans are Philly fans.
Another thing, Eli has a hard enough time winning a game, let alone throwing one for money. Geez, Tom, I thought you were smarter than that. That's what I get for thinking that MAYBE there's a Patriots fan out there with a brain!
Again, you agreed with the assessment that Robert Kraft has the league in his pocket. I think that answers the question of which fan has the brain.
And that fan isn't you!
A response keeping with the grand old tradition of "So's your mother!" I expected nothing more from you.
So's your mother!
Patriots cheating. I find that about half-funny. They were caught filming the other teams defensive signals. Is that really cheating? Fuck no its not. Teams have been trying to interpret the other teams signals since the beginning of sports, let alone football. The only difference is the Patriots utilized technology (video cameras) to tape the opposing defenses signals and then spent hours studying those signals and learn the defensive schemes that go with them. THAT'S CALLED HARD WORK. DEDICATION. Any other team in the NFL could have (and probabely should have) done the same. However, the Jets dedicated they should whine because they don't have the same work ethic or winning attitude. I run a damned business. do you really think I WAIT until my competitors come to market with a new product or do you think I follow everything they do and learn how to interpret their market strategies to anticipate what thier next move might be? You bet your ass I do the latter. It's called STRATEGY and the Patriots shouldn't be hated because they did what ANY other team in the NFL should be doing. Get the fuck over it, the Patriots have just done it much better than anyone else, much like the play the game of football much BETTER than anyone else.
By the way I am a Pittsburgh fan, not a Patriot fan. But hating the Patriots because they are making history and are committed to winning? Stop fucking whining and enjoy watching the incredible football they play. Once thing I have noticed about Americans, they can't fucking stand it when someone WINS. They cry, whine, bitch moan and call it luck. They can't STAND to see other succeed.
Grow the fuck up. There is room for others to succeed if they work hard. If you aren't winning it's because your fucking lazy and have no work ethic, passion or commitment.
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I love exclamation points too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh Kenn (odd way to spell it, but anyway) I agree about letting the spygate crap die. They were fined, it's over, end it. However, I don't think the defense for their cheating should be "everyone else does it". Two wrongs don't make a right, do they?
As far has hating the Patriots, I have disliked this team through good and bad. I grew up in New England as a Giants fan (my father stuck by the Giants) and couldn't stand the Patriots back when Steve Grogan was around. However, NOW the media around here is much more irritating and cocky, so, yes, I do enjoy seeing them lose and seeing the long faces on the newscasters, and some of the hateful, bandwagoner fans around here that know nothing about the game, they just want the parade in Boston at the end.
Blah, blah, blah. Get some new material.
And hail to the only team ever to go 16-0 in the regular season.
... and to Brady for his season touchdown record.
... and to Moss for his season TD reception record.
Why don't the Patriots wear Sean Taylor's number 21 on their helmets? Are they too good to care about someone's demise? And don't say it's because they had a guy die on their team, because Denver is loaded with misfortune, and they wear Sean Taylor's number, plus the two of their deceased players. Probably just another nose-thumbing aspect of the Patriots.
Well, here we are again. Perched high on the mountain top over looking the land of champions. I must say the view is fabulous and now that the Patriots are 16-0 and making NFL HISTORY it just gets better and better. They DID IT!!! The Pats are the BEST team in the NFL!!! GO PATS!!!
"Why don't the Patriots wear Sean Taylor's number 21 on their helmets?"
Um, they did. The Patriots wore number 21 in memory of Sean Taylor for a week, just like every other team. How about checking your "facts" before you post them here, OK?
I noticed that the rest of the league doesn't wear number 91 in memory of Marquise Hill. Are they all insensitive clods too?
So I suppose the best idea would be for all players to wear the numbers of every deceased NFL player all the time, even if it means covering their eyes. Brilliant idea, Giantsfan.
You sound more desperate with every post. You really need to lighten up and learn to appreciate the finer things in life, and not waste your time hating them. Did someone hurt you as a child?
16-0 is over and done. Now onto the playoffs. THEN we'll see who's king.
Tom,
Every other team is still wearing the 21 and I did do research. I watched every game on Sunday to check to see if every other team wore it.
If you don't like negative comments about the [slur], go to a site that commends them. There's an awful lot of love going around for them, I'm sure you could find a suitable site.
"I watched every game on Sunday to check to see if every other team wore it."
Run for it! The Numbers Police!
You really need to get a life, GiantsfaninNE. I mean, honestly. Think of the productive things you could be doing with all that free time. You could go down to your local shelter and hate on the homeless. Or volunteer at your school, where you could hate on the children.
I don't want to take those jobs away from you, Tom. Otherwise, what would you do with your day?
That response reminds me of a Seinfeld episode, where Elaine tells Putty that working as an auto mechanic is very "grease monkey."
Putty: "Oh yeah? So are you! You're the grease monkey!"
Elaine: "T-t-t-that doesn't make any sense!"
While I also am a big Seinfeld fan, I'm glad you can relate life to the precise dialogue in an episode of a television show. It certain is an insight to your intellect.
Wow, GiantsfaninNE, you actually used the word "intellect" in the proper context. It's good to know that someone who doesn't have any intellect at least knows what it means.
Congrats to Bill Belichick for being named AP Coach of the Year. Go Pats!
There was no other choice but to give it to Belichick. It would've been a travesty not to after going 16-0 (as much as it hurts to admit it).
GO ANYBODY BUT THE PATS!!!
"GO ANYBODY BUT THE PATS!!!"
Haha, spoken like a true "fan."
The Giants are in the playoffs, yet you're more focused on rooting against the Pats than supporting your own team. If the Giants could see your comments, they'd be embarrassed to have you as a fan.
I'm sure the Patriots would be proud to have a fan like you that frequents negative blogs and defends that precious team. Oh wait, I'm sure they don't give a crap about you, like most athletes. Of course I want the Giants to win, but this site is regarding the Patriots. Why start another battle when this one is so insane?
Because I like to needle you.
I know the Patriots don't give a crap about me. They're too busy focusing on, you know, football and dominating every team at every level.
I thought the Associated Press were respected journalists. Giving coach of the year to a man who was fined $500,000.00 for "misinterpreting the rules" is a travesty. There are plenty of coaches this year more deserving. Everyone is simply jumping on The Patriots' bandwagon. Coach of the Year(cheater), league MVP (Peyton wannabe), and I suppose Vrabel will get Defensive Player of the Year, too. If they win it all, I will write the entire season off as an anomaly. Maybe we can give one of them the Nobel Prize, too?
Maybe Tom Brady could be the second coming of Christ while we're at it.
No, no, no. Christ is his son, people!
"league MVP (Peyton wannabe)"
Funny stuff. Brady is having a better year than Peyton has ever had, and he doesn't play half his games in a climate-controlled dome. He also won three Super Bowls without the benefit of an elite receiver, like Peyton's has had.
No, no, no, he never sees his son. He's a deadbeat dad.
Really, Giantsfan? I wasn't aware of that. I've been reading that he does visit his son and provides him and his mom with generous financial suppo